Podcast Interview: Quick Before You Forget

Believing Before You Can See It: Ellen Baker & Terence Sullivan on Quick Before You Forget

Terence Sullivan wrote his first manuscript with his thumbs, in his phone's Notes app, at 4 a.m. With a painting degree and plenty of self-doubt, he didn't think he had any business writing a book. Then he met Ellen, who saw the storyteller in him before he could.

That book became Alice of Oz, the first in The Oz Multiverse. In this conversation, Ellen and Terence talk about imposter syndrome, grief becoming creation, carrying belief for someone else, and following the next brick when you can't see the whole road. And somewhere along the way, it turned into a conversation about magic.